The Conciliar Church and The Catholic Church

Some readers are possibly wondering about use of the term 'Conciliar Church' in a previous blog post. Does use of the term 'Conciliar Church' merely signify the Catholic Church in the aftermath of the Second Vatican Council, or does it mean something else?

It means something else. The term describes an alien body of religious beliefs - the heresy of Modernism that St. Pius X defined as "the repository of all heresies" - functioning as a harmful, almost deadly, parasitical invader within the material structures of the Catholic Church.

At the Second Vatican Council the necessary treatment to destroy this parasitic disease was done away with allowing the disease to spread to epidemic and then pandemic proportions. The Conciliar Church constitutes a false religion that has, to enormous degree, seized hold of the physical structures of the Church.

The St. Athanasius of our own times described the Conciliar Church as follows:

"It is a question of the radical incompatibility between the Catholic Church and the Conciliar Church, the Mass of Paul VI being the symbol and the program of the Conciliar Church… This Council represents, both in the opinion of the Roman authorities as in our own, a new Church which they call themselves the 'Conciliar Church'… All those who cooperate in the application of this overturning accept and adhere to this new Conciliar Church, as His Excellency Mgr. Benelli called it in the letter that he sent me in the name of the Holy Father last 25th June, and they enter into the schism…

 

What is schism? It is a break, a break with the Church. But a break with the Church can also be a break with the Church of the past. If someone breaks with the Church of two thousand years, he is in schism. There has already been a Council which was declared schismatic. Well, it is possible that one day, in twenty years, in thirty, in fifty years - I don't know - the Second Vatican Council could be declared schismatic, because it professed things which are opposed to the Tradition of the Church, and which have caused a break with the Church…

… We are suspended a divinis by the Conciliar Church, and for the Conciliar Church, to which we have no wish to belong. That Conciliar Church is a schismatic Church, because it breaks with the Catholic Church that has always been. It has its new dogmas, its new priesthood, its new institutions, its new worship, all already condemned by the Church in many a document, official and definitive....

… The Church that affirms such errors is at once schismatic and heretical. This Conciliar Church is, therefore, not Catholic. To whatever extent Pope, Bishops, priests, or faithful adhere to this new Church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church…

… In so far as the new Church separates itself from the old Church we cannot follow it. That is the position, and that is why we maintain Tradition, we keep firmly to Tradition; and I am sure we are being of immense service to the Church…

 

… I believe that I have the right to ask these gentlemen who present themselves in offices which were occupied by Cardinals (who were indeed saintly persons and who were defenders of the Church and of the Catholic Faith) it seems to me that I would have the right to ask them, 'Are you with the Catholic Church? Are you the Catholic Church? With whom am I dealing?' If I am dealing with someone who has a pact with Masonry, have I the right to speak with such a person? Have I the duty to listen to them and to obey them?...

… How can one avoid the conclusion: there where the Faith of the Church is, there also is her sanctity, and there where the sanctity of the Church is, there is the Catholic Church. A Church which no longer brings forth good fruits, a Church which is sterile, is not the Catholic Church…

… Exactly the same day nine years ago on the 21st of November, I drew up a manifesto which also brought down on me the persecution of Rome, in which I said I can't accept Modernist Rome. I accept the Rome of all time with its doctrine and with its Faith. That is the Rome we are following, but the Modernist Rome which is changing religion? I refuse it and I reject it. And that is the Rome which was introduced into the Council and which is in the process of destroying the Church. I refuse that Church…

… The Conciliar Church, having now reached everywhere, is spreading errors contrary to the Catholic Faith and, as a result of these errors, it has corrupted the sources of grace, which are the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the Sacraments. This false Church is in an ever-deeper state of rupture with the Catholic Church. Resulting from these principles and facts is the absolute need to continue the Catholic episcopacy in order to continue the Catholic Church…

… This is how the succession of bishops came about in the early centuries of the Church, in union with Rome, as we are too in union with Catholic Rome and not Modernist Rome…

…To stay inside the Church, or to put oneself inside the Church - what does that mean? Firstly, what Church are we talking about? If you mean the Conciliar Church, then we who have struggled against the Council for twenty years because we want the Catholic Church, we would have to re-enter this Conciliar Church in order, supposedly, to make it Catholic. That is a complete illusion. It is not the subjects that make the superiors, but the superiors who make the subjects.

 

This talk about the 'visible Church' … is childish. It is incredible that anyone can talk of the 'visible Church', meaning the Conciliar Church as opposed to the Catholic Church which we are trying to represent and continue. I am not saying that we are the Catholic Church. I have never said so. No one can reproach me with ever having wished to set myself up as pope. But, we truly represent the Catholic Church such as it was before, because we are continuing what it always did. It is we who have the notes of the visible Church: One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. That is what makes the visible Church…

… one cannot help thinking of the 'seat of iniquity' foretold by Leo XIII, or of Rome losing the Faith foretold by Our Lady at La Salette.